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Needs 50 bucks 50 bucks. the first thing you'll do is buy a few more cases of beer and a few more what a burgers and that's going to help the people selling beer and what a burgers. >> gary b., this is basically the government telling businesses what to pay their workers and not -- they shouldn't be making the business decisions, should they? >> exactly, brenda. i guess if you're where chuck is from, you have a one-stoplight town and the one employer and all the workers have to work there, it's a fantastic deal. but, you know, as pointed out earlier, we've had 1,100 food jobs lost in seattle, ...

Greece. and i don't think that's a good place to go. >> you know, i think everybody's -- mine, yours, everybody's share of this is some $50,000. chuck? should we raise the debt ceiling or just cut spending? >> this just in -- people in washington, d.c., are talking about giving stuff away and giving people money because they can be re-elected. absolutely. with this particular debt ceiling and this case, this is our own debt we've already incurred. we don't want to default on our loans. i sound like gary b. but you have to do something to cut between now and then because you can't go back and n...

Well. >> americans have a ton of stock in their 401(k)s and their i.r.a. s and their regular accounts. you can't have it both bayways. if blame the rich people for the dow you have to blame the rich people for 6,000 on the dow in 2009 to where it is now. if you want to blame anybody, blame ben bernanke for policy. they need to back away if anybody need to. >> he was the head of the fed and there's been many year where is the fed has eventually been printing money. that's what you've been talking about, gary b., right? >> exactly. look, the fed has become more and more involved and more and mor...

Pushed back to the corporate headquarters. all it is is a union grab. >> emily, you this is a good thing. why? >> i do. i think it's more simple than that. i think these are large corporations that to their franchisees they dictate qualifications for hiring, they dictate shift schedules, they dictate how they input all of that information, and now the employee can start to about like the corporate is their employer. they've been acting like their employer. now the employee can start to deal with them like they are employer. >> but gary b., they don't pay them, they don't supervise them, they d...

Record now? >> i think you'll see them concentrate on the positive things i started with, unemployment rate, how many jobs they've created. this week i was in the keys doing some fishing with a lieutenant colonel of mine. he was doing a lot of trading of stocks. he said, chuck, you i've worked hard, you have liquid atsz ets. here's the first time to invest, which is the first time i thought why would i want to invest you now? he said this is the time to get back in. it will readjust. it made me step back and say, oh my gosh i can talk to gary b. and john. then he talked about a bull market. an...