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In a tight job market, sorry, in a tight job market you can't find enough people. >> what if people living in the communities don't know how who build a high-rise? >> i'm not defending them. >> now you're on a construction job? >> this is not just -- this is not just highly controversial, it's wrong. it's absolutely wrong to crowd out the private market and crowd out the free markets. it's nothing more than favoritism, handing over because you gave me money for a campaign. if george bush was doing it, some cable stations would be having a coronary. >> most economists looked and i3 >> most econ...

If you think about the deductions for mortgage interest payments, that's helping in this climate when we're in a housing crisis and need to lure buyers. retirement savings, some are important to the wait picture works. so it's easy to -- >> what about the implications -- we're making -- this is an agency that gary says they're doing a good job but the i.r.s., people are intimidated. >> if they say you -- sorry, if they say you owe them money, they'll freeze your bank account. if you make direct -- have direct deposit, if you owe money, they'll freeze your bank account and good luck getting it ...

Of time accountants spend, it's crazy. it will get worse with the rules. >> who is it getting worse for? we've seen reports the last few years that the i.r.s. backed away from a auditing big businesses. is it going to get worse for the individual? >> it might. nobody would look at the tax code and say this is awesome. >> gary said -- >> he said the i.r.s. it's complicated, it's a thicket of problems. it's difficult to manage. it's a beast. i think it's going to affect everybody, corporations as well as individuals. you know, a big reason people are sitting on cash is because we're in a recessi...

We're back with the names showing the government how to cut cost while making money. gary k.? >> well, i go with federal express. look, we got the post office run by the government, federal express run by fred smith making tons of money, doing fantastic. fred smith took over the postal service it would be profitable. the stock is going higher over time. >> hard to argue with this one. >> it is, even though i love to argue with gary. this is a cyclical company that does really well when the consumer economy rebounds, which it's about to do. it's a smart buy. it's appreciated a lot in the last y...

Overwhelmingly the american public certainly republicans are pulling up that number, but some independence and even conservative democrats are pleased with the top talk approach to north korea, for instance and how he was in houston and handled florida as well. i do want to say a congratulation's to gary's daughter though, so we have that going for us and i love to see m arters out there and gainfully employed so congratulations. >> dagen: gary b., that does go to the point of what we've seen this past week the terror attacks, north korea again firing another missile and even these hurricanes....