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as much as he wants the stain of corporate zone and talk to people in the channel. he really wants to be accepted by people at the new york times. >> i found interesting. the idea of him releasing, on these, tapes the motivation that he spoke to about for the reasons why doing so. anyway i wonder if you will be questioned in terms of trying to put the thumb on the scale, for whatever reason. there's often with criticism towards journalist that suggest that, you know, the type of stories he published. the ones you want to put forward. somehow leads people to question what your role is...

maggie haberman, too, for her book. and then goes on twitter, or whatever, truth social, sorry, and bad-mouths her. i mean, i think the truth of the matter, he can't quit us. he can't talk with us, he just can't. journalists, as much as he wants to own, like, as much as he wants to stay in his comfort zone and only talk to people in other channels, you know, challenging him all that much, he really wants to be accepted by people at the new york times and elsewhere. >> and cnn. >> i found it interesting, though, he thought about it. the idea of him releasing all the states and the mot...

Prosecutor, you want things to leave off the page, and have that transcript come to life. it's not without consequence that people question what you do. so, it's fascinating. >> all right, jake tapper -- >> no! >> you can say no, jake. but we can't quit you, either. >> no! >> yes. >> good luck, guys. have a great show! talk to you later. >> good evening everyone. i'm alison camerota. >> and i am laura coates, and this is cnn tonight. and we've got new sound from the big guy. this debate happened right now tonight in florida between ron desantis and charlie crist. and early tomorrow, it's gonna...