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Joining us live is the senior vatican analyst john allen. john, we know pope frances is characterized as being progressive. as you look at this list, what stands out to you? >> the first thing that smacks you in the face is the gee yoe graph geographic diversity of the cardinals. this is a pope that wants to reach out to people on the margins. and you clearly see that in this set. you're talking about cardinals from typically overlooked places like cape verde, the pacific island of tonga, panama, tie land, uruguay and so on. of the 15 new voting age cardinals, that is cardinals who were under ...

And lack of understanding actually make it worse. i would love to get people back to work, employed and growing. i think it's the most important thing that we have to do. and i know there are unknown -- i agree with you but gee yoe politics are always there and will hit us somewhere where we least expect it so we have to be prepared for those. >> that was jamie dimon. back with my final thoughts on egypt in just a moment. uh, i'm in a timeout because apparently