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Segregation in our country and what was necessary to deal with that, which at that time was busing, then you're probably not ready. >> so she's obviously talking about when she criticized joe biden for opposing busing and working with segregationists in the '70s to oppose busing when she was somebody in her view benefited from busing. what do you think? >> i think she's right. look, this is why we have a primary. i would far rather have joe biden have to figure out how he's going to answer a question like that now than in a gem election context and i think frankly for all of the candidates, ka...

Particularly relevant to joe biden who has to an extent stayed back a little bit from some of the larger cattle call events, not campaigning quite as much as others. how long can or should he do this? >> well, i tell you, i think vice president biden is going to be at his best as he's out there on the trail being scrappy, not presuming. >> that he'll be the eventual nominee. i think our side more than anything hates the idea of presumption and for the other candidates who right now may be displaying around this poll because they may not see themselves right now in a position they want to see t...

Smoke-filled room. i am a big believer. i seen time and again the more people you have in primaries, the better it makes the candidates the sharper they are by the time they get to the gem election. this -- general election. this does seem to be a challenge, if not logistically, if have you 20, 25 people on the stage during these presidential debates. >> i think so. part of it is a reaction to what happened last knight time which was a coronation for hillary clinton. everybody else was blocked out of the process, with the exception of bernie sanders that was more of an annoyance, although, he ...

Race, he was beyond himself, he could not believe it and he was enraged, according to again this race. imagine he loses in the primary and loses in the gem election in a state they told me during the campaign if you lose this race,ly move to alabama because they love me so much. >> i remember the summer of 2015, in mobile, alabama, that was an earlial, he was embarrassed with luther strange. he deleted the tweets. if he does it again, sticks his neck out. not just for republican, but this republican, that's beyond embarrassing. >> all right. casey. jump in. >> quickly, one thing that

Crossroads group. they are abandoning thad cochran now when he most needs them. the third thing to know here is that democrats are psyched or psyched for mississippi about the prospect of not running against thad cochran who would surely be reelected in the general election. they're psyched to have the prospect of running against this tea party guy instead. today politico reported that private polling has shown that the travis childers would start a gem election statistically tied. thad cochran, that race would be difficult for democrats to the point of futility. so, this this hypercompetitive...