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General if the president asks him or her to do something he or she believes is unlawful or unconstitutional to say no and that's what i did. >> okay. i get it. all right. let me ask you both a couple questions. can we both -- can we agree, director and counselor, that the russians attempted to influence the outcome of the election? >> yes, sir. absolutely. >> yes. >> do you believe that the russians did, in fact, influence the outcome of the election? director? >> in our intelligence community assessment, we made the point that we could not make that call. the intelligence community has neithe...

Again, it certaly comports with what -- if they chose a candidate for whatever reason they had an aversion to, they would do that. >> okay. general clapper, have you ever leaked information, classified or unclassified, to a member of the press? >> not wittingly or knowingly, as i said in my statement. >> classified or unclassified? >> well, unclassified is not leaking. unclassified -- that's -- that's somewhat of a non -- >> have you ever given information to a reporter you didn't want to have your name connected with but you wanted to see it in the paper? >> i have not. i've had many encounte...

Russia? >> well, i guess it could be -- you could rationalize that helps the russians you could say it helped the russians by obfuscating who was actually responsible. >> thank you. good to have you both here. >> senator frank? >> thank you. i want to thank both you and the ranking member for this hearing and these hearings. and i want to thank senator clapper and ms. yates for hearing today. the intelligence communities have concluded, all 17 of them, that russia interfered with the

Arrange for me to talk on background with reporters about a particular issue to educate them about that, no. i certainly never provided classified information. that will be the only kind of background information. >> i might have done this same thing. but certainly -- doesn't -- doesn't include sharing classified information. >> down anybody else that has ever leaked classified or unclassified information to the press? >> no. >> thank you, mr. chairman. i went over. i apologize. >> okay. >> thank you, mr. chairman. general clapper, mrs. yates. good to see you. mrs. yates, i remember so well yo...

>> not wittingly, no. >> okay. and general flynn received $37,000 for sitting next to putin at the tenth anniversary of "russia today." it seems -- all of this seems odd to me and raises question. i was struck that mr. mcgann did not ask you in the second meeting why doj, general yates, would have concerns that the doj -- that the national security adviser had lied to the vice president. in the first meet being did you mention that? this he might be compromised? >> we went through all of our