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Power sf have had some concerns with the way that lafco when we originally set set up lafco to work on clean power sf and especially get at the beginning of 2007 and what we needed from lafco and i believe the intention we needed somebody on task for clean power sf itself that could approach the sf puc on many occasions the sf puc wasnt thinking outside of the box on this to put it politely, and we need someone, and i think we will need someone well versed in local distributive generation, the dynamics of Financing Clean Energy and clean energy over the next year so we can take the build out w...

That . Okay. Why dont we open it up to Public Comment. Good afternoon again commissioners. Eric brook representing San Francisco green party and the local organization our city. First a technical point on all of this. I was under the impression and check with dhr on this that the executive position still exists but filled on an interim basis. Maybe i am wrong on that but good to make sure youre correct on that from the staffs perspective. I agree bringing it back in house because the next year is going to be really big for clean power sf and some other things and we need somebody that can be a...

Hadnt read. There was a report around in San Francisco called what the heck is a rec. Something like that. Have you i have not. You havent seen it. Which contended that unbundled recs had less of a market didnt generate im probably going to sort of do it wrong. Its complicated. They were basically arguing that unbundled recs didnt were less likely to come from new power plants, i think, or thats actually a good point. Right now that is true and that is something i failed to mention. If your goal is to immediately incentivize the creation of new power plants, there is some skepticism out there ...

A bundled rec or unbundled rec for carbon reduction. I dont want to put you on the spot about a report you hadnt read. There was a report around in San Francisco called what the heck is a rec. Something like that. Have you i have not. You havent seen it. Which contended that unbundled recs had less of a market didnt generate im probably going to sort of do it wrong. Its complicated. They were basically arguing that unbundled recs didnt were less likely to come from new power plants, i think, or thats actually a good point. Right now that is true and that is something i failed to mention. If yo...

Again, it is important how a contract is constructed. There are ways to there have been some in the past some utility contracts for recs that were then constructed in a way that it left you scratching your head on whether or not it reduced carbon. But if theyre constructed unbundled recs. Actually in that case it was constructed in a way to call it a bundled rec. They were trying to get around the way the law used to be written. There are ways you can do a contract where you scratch your head and say its done. If the rules are done right and theyre monitored right and the people procuring the ...