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Rick tyler, former senior adviser to ted cruz and newt gingrich. joel, first to you. how are the candidates doing so far in trying to reach out to african-americans, especially young people? i know joe biden does very well with the older african-americans and bernie sanders less so. who's breaking through? >> i think that's important. the generational one. joe biden has really built a strong lead and most of that is based on older black voters, particularly black women the most reliable democratic voting bloc and the black millennials are important because that's where the energy of the party ...

War that's going to go on -- it's going to be a generational war. what's your assessment? >> well, again, let's make the differentiation. when we say isis, syria, or iraq, or are we saying this global war. so isis, syria, iraq, can be defeated fairly quickly. but the global war, what i call the third world war by other means, is one that is a generational one. hopefully, the military secure aspect is the short term or the military part is a short term. the midterm is going to be the intelligence and security aspect. the long term is the ideological one and the educational one. >> and that's a ...