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Directly talks about obstruction of justice. now they are coming after him on obstruction. so you know what's going on in his head. >> you get insight in real-time. you can compare it to the timeline. look, here's what we know. michael made the point if the president was a student of history. the president is not a student of history. we know that. he is not a deep strategic thinker. he is a genius marketer and hype man. but impulsivity leads to problems like this. for all the ratcheting up of pressure that apparently results in this request which would have been disastrous, don mcgann throws ...

You're losing an advantage in some sense? >> i think, i think it says a number of things to a number of different white americans. and the genius that donald trump tapped -- well, the genius of donald trump is that he tapped into that. now, some people say -- >> he tapped into that fear which is based in racism. but go on. >> some people would say that's worse than being a racist because he knows better and he's manipulating people, okay? but the genius marketer that he is tapped into what's happening in this country, don. and part of what's happening in this country is that particularly white...

That. we live in a country where the demographics are changing, it's becoming less white. >> correct. >> okay. you're making my point. so, then, if you're a white person who is afraid of that, or that is concerning to you, what is that saying, that you are losing power in some sense? you're losing an advantage in some sense? >> i think, i think it says a number of things to a number of different white americans. and the genius that donald trump tapped -- well, the genius of donald trump is that he tapped into that. now, some people say -- >> he tapped into that fear which is based in racism. b...

>> hindsight is 20/20. >> and look, i never imagined that donald trump would get elected, so take every thing i say with a grain of salt. >> as our cameras remain laser-focused on the scene outside of the trump hotel, i'm wondering what you all think about whether three months from now, four months from now, when president trump is involved in legislative battles with congress, will there be this level of incredible interest in everything he does? he is a celebrity who is becoming president, as opposed to somebody who becomes a celebrity by being elected. >> he's the president and there is alw...

He might be. i'm just saying. we might have to take a look at it. and that's vintage donald trump. it's why he's a genius marketer and he's been translating that into politics for the last six months. on the other side, ted cruz, his strategy about donald trump, has really worked so far, which is to hug him as much as he can and when trump goes after him, try to make a joke about it. you're right that he feels like he needs to explain the law. he needs to explain the legal basis of his belief that he doesn't have a problem. but, you know, he's trying to do that without giving too much credence...