>> and he had the hobbies and interests that were definitely a gentry class and nature. >> his portrait -- >> there's a great example. and his writing habits, that's a good example. you do get to a certain level of success and all of a sudden this seems like a good idea. and it's never a good idea at that age. >> at any age. >> exactly. >> was he politically active at all? >> middle of the road. that's what he said. he said you have to bring black education up with white education. the state of mississippi will not invest in black education, it's up to us citizens to do so. he said that segreg...