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You don't really know george zimmerman if you don't know those things about george zimmerman. and if you don't know where george zimmerman is, and if you have not seen him in over a month and you have been out saying that george cannot stop crying which you cannot verify because you were not there, you have been saying nope, you have been saying that there are lacerations and his nose is broken. the only thing you know is what george may have told you because you were not there. you have not seen him for over a month. none of this rings true. you're playing people like they're stupid. and we'r...

>> if you don't know where george zimmerman is and if you have not seen him in over a month and you have been going out saying that george cannot stop crying, which you cannot verify because you were not there. you have been saying -- no, you have been saying that there are lacerations and his nose is broken and the only thing you know is what george may have told you because you were not there and you have not seen him for over a month. how do you know in your heart -- >> have you ever had a gut feeling? >> so this is a gut feeling? >> were you there? were you there? >> so you've talked to ge...

They come to the original conclusion that george was acting in self-defense. >> we shall see how it all cracks out. joe oliver, thanks for taking time for us. we appreciate your insights in all of this. again, you don't want to be clarified as a close friend, but an acquaintance. >> i have known george since he started dating his wife. i'm closer to his in-laws. i will clarify that. i will clarify that i know george well enough to put my own reputation and my own life on the line because i know george would do the same for me. >> joe oliver, thank you, appreciate it. vice president joe biden...

>> so it didn't lend itself to any of the credibility -- because you won't reveal any of the conversations. now overnight since that interview you have now spoken to george zimmerman again and he's given you permission to reveal part of that conversation in reference to the police tape. is that what you're telling me today? >> no, look, that part of the conversation just happened this morning. because my conversations with george have been to reassure myself that i ham doing the right thing. because this horrible incident has sparked the tinder, the wood that has been piling up for years becau...

Friends and colleagues are in hiding? >> his colleagues -- >> his acquaintances are hiding. >> his colleagues cannot speak out because that would risk their jobs. that interview last night may have cost me my job. >> why would that interview cost you your job? you've done i don't know how many interviews. why would that -- >> because it has nothing to do with my employer. >> what does it have to do with then? >> my employer is concerned, as well, because they need to keep their clients. and because, thomas, this whole thing, all of this, the one common denominator, the common denominator becau...