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The Katie Phang Show

open invite to you and others in the cold, come to miami. it's nice and warm and sunny. nbc news correspondent george soliz, i appreciate you as always. and we will be right back. right back. it's the only medication that can treat a migraine when it strikes and prevent migraine attacks. treat and prevent, all in one. don't take if allergic to nurtec. allergic reactions can occur, even days after using. most common side effects were nausea, indigestion, and stomach pain. relief is possible. talk to a doctor about nurtec odt.

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winds could cause black ice, vehicle pileups, and power blackouts. joining me now from scranton, pennsylvania, is nbc news correspondent george soliz. george, a lot colder than what you and i are used to, so give us the latest. this big storm system heading where you are, actually, in pennsylvania. how are people in your area getting ready for this potential storm? >> yeah, this is a good opportunity, katie, for people to pick out the shovels, test out their snow blowers. in the scranton area, we're expecting 4 to 8 inches of snow. some pockets seeing up to a foot of snow, so, obviously, a lot of people on notice. that's a little bit closer to the coastline of new york, new jersey, unfortunately, they're not going to get that white, winter wonderland they were expecting. they might see a little bit of snow, but that's going to move over into some rain. still, though, obviously, good habits to make sure that your equipment is stopped, all your supplies or stop, because there's another storm moving towards the east coast, which might bring a little bit more snow to next week. so, it's good to be prepared.

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people we are speaking with, we getting a mixed bag of reactions. some people are eager to see a little bit of snowfall, since we didn't have a white christmas. others saying if this is the only snowfall we see all winter, they will be thankful for it. a lot of people not missing out on having to shovel that thick, wet, heavy snow. still, we have scrapers, we have hand warmer's, we're all bundled up. people have been out saying, taking those necessary precautions, if you're going to be out there in the extreme cold. emergency management operations, officials, state agencies, all at the ready for what the storm may bring. of course, we know it will bring some pretty torrential rain in some areas, and, also some of those slick roads and conditions on roadways. power outages also possible. so, ready and waiting for the storm to arrive here. we're expected to see some of those first flakes. again, a little bit later this evening into the early afternoon hours. and about 48 inches of snow, so, this backdrop is going to look significantly different here in a couple of hours, katie. >> george, stay warm.

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the alternative, there is no claim. and i think at the end of the day, the questions emerge. i mean, there really is no presidential criminal immunity of the sort donald trump is seeking here, and as a result, you can argue there also is no right to appeal. >> i think clyde is agreeing with you as you speak to us right now. george, let's shift gears and talk about a case that actually leapfrog, leapt frogged? leap frogged this particular the c 106 case for donald trump, and that is that colorado supreme court decision that is now been granted by the supreme court to be heard. you've been very vocal about that case, and about section three of the 14th amendment. i want to focus on one particular nuance for our viewers today, because george, i think this is a really important part of what's going on. i think factually, he is the person to the united states at the time, he being donald trump. factually, i think the office of the president is the office of the united states for purposes of this amendment. let's talk about whether or not

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don't think this question is close. i think a decision within a matter of days will be in order. and the interesting question will be maybe the supreme court doesn't even have to weigh in, if the court of appeals opinion is sufficiently compelling. >> george, let's talk about the fact, though, that order was entered by that three judge panel of the d.c. circuit court of appeals, ordering both sides to be prepared to answer questions about issues that were raised in amicus briefs, including the one you and the other conservative lawyers filed. i thought it was particularly noteworthy, because amicus briefs attempted to be submitted all the time, but it's interesting to see an appellate court panel say, not only are we accepting these briefs, but we want people to be prepared to answer questions about them. >> yeah, i've seen that before. it's happened in that case in which, in cases which i've been involved and the courts actually go out and seek amicus briefs. but in this particular case, i think there is one brief, not ours, that is the focus of some

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provisions, and nothing in section one, either, that's us that. which would mean if congress, tomorrow, for whatever reason, repealed all the civil rights laws ever enacted, you could engage in racial discrimination tomorrow. states could do. that and that's just not true. that's one of many reasons why this argument does not fly, and another reason is that the supreme court has made clear that provisions of section, of the 14th amendment, are self executing, and they don't need congressional enactments. also, one more reason is that section three says that congress can relieve a person of the disability of having engaged in insurrection and being disqualified from office by a two thirds vote. well, if congress, if the framers of the 14th amendment provided that, that that means, that certainly means somebody else could be in posting this ability, not congress. >> yet, george, very quickly, i just want to make sure that this is a way i understand it, you've got a supreme court that

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Alex Witt Reports

this hour, we're going to be speaking with reporters and analysts to get to the bottom of what exactly happened. let's go first to msnbc's george soliz joining us from jacksonville. i understand you're outside the jacksonville sheriff's office. tell me what's happening today. >> yeah, alex, you can see there is a somber mood here in jacksonville, florida. we're expecting an update from sheriff dike waters, and some of the questions, of, course people want to know. they want to see if he will reveal the identity of the alleged shooter, as well as the victim. three tragically lost their life as a result of the shooting. we expect this to be a large press conference, with a lot of questions being asked. earlier at the scene, outside of the dollar general there, obviously you can imagine that it is a very large perimeter. police are still on the scene. they are not much activity, you can just feel how quiet and calm it is. this is a dollar general, they're sort of the only store, the only game in town, if you will. you can imagine, on any given day, they could be going in and out, picking up their essentials for their family. it is shuttered now as part of

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absolutely murderous. we need to stop going from one of the situations to the next. >> i'm listening to your words, and listening to those that george soliz brought us from leadership. let me also get to naacp eric johnson, here's what he said about. the reaction is, as we continue the march for freedom and washington, hateful actions continue to carry out the white supremacist agenda and jacksonville. we have, we also saw governor from florida, ron desantis, and here is what he had to say. he had to condemn the shooting. we played a little of what he said. let's remind folks, the naacp didn't they warn folks, don't go to florida? it's not safe. that was not that long ago. >> yes, they hadn't advisement. they had that for people who lived in florida. we know that three people killed were not traveling form outside, they were in the

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ramped up till after labor day. it's on the weekend. and it's hotter than the hinges of hell in jacksonville this weekend. >> yeah. >> so who is on the street? there are people there. so he whip, sabbagh, nobody here to shoot. i've gotta go five people to shoot. where are they going to be? oh, here's a store. you know, he's in an african american neighborhood so he shoots people. >> that's the way i would read. we don't know what happened, but that is likely the challenge. it could've been a target. >> it could've been. jim, hang on to stay with me as we bring in george soliz. you guys, he was at the top of the show. he is the reporter there with nbc news on scene. george, i've use the word chilling to describe what i heard with the sheriff run-through chronically in everything about this incident. tell me what it was like been there, listening to that, what

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