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What do you say to a pope when you get an audience? >> i say thank you a lot. it is -- it is somewhat overwhelming to meet a pope and i've met this pope twice and quite honestly, andrea, i never expected in my life to meet a pope. what i am struck by when i think about the encounters i've had with him is what george said, how relaxed he is. you know, some men when they are elected to the papacy, it seems to be a responsibility that confines them. with this pope, it seems to have liberated him. he is so comfortable. when i think back to this press conference on the plane. i've covered everybody...

Trying to change the public face of the church. i'm joined by two experts, ann thompson who covers the vatican and george weekle. george, first to you, you've had i think private conversations with the pontiff. how does he assess this first year if you can speak to it more generally? >> i was very struck, andrea, three weeks ago when i saw the holy father, two weeks ago, at how relaxed he is. this is a man who is comfortable in his role. he is completely himself and in fact a bit more animated than i found him when i had spoken to him ten months before his election. i think he's got a clear vi...