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We're talking about the democratic party stiffening its spoo spine. i think the $64 million question for the next four years is going to be whether the republican party, especially the conservative movement within the republican, elements of which were so outwardly opposed to donald trump's candidacy, whether they will stiffen their spine. >> and they're very constitutionalists. they'll be very concerned about historically conservative men, constitutionalists. >> yes, what's interesting is, you looked back to the latter half of the george w. administration, and the folks who were planting the ...

Question. so, chris, you know, today i think was really a sad day for america as people watched this interview, because the -- it starts with the leadership. and the leadership, today, in the irs, showed arrogance, showed a lack of concern and brushed the, in my opinion, just sort of brushed the issue aside. >> congressman, thank you. you've been around. i don't know what i saw. i certainly saw a disconnect today. that mr. miller guy. i don't know what -- it's like he didn't see what he knew people certainly right, left and center could see, that when you target particular groups, you're targe...

Brushed the, in my opinion, just sort of brushed the issue aside. >> congressman, thank you. you've been around. i don't know what i saw. i certainly saw a disconnect today. that mr. miller guy. i don't know what -- it's like he didn't see what he knew people certainly right, left and center could see, that when you target particular groups, you're targeting particular groups. i mean, if this were on the other foot, andç this was a george w. administration, they were targeting groups that were calling themselves progressives, i would say it's prima facie evidence of targeting. i don't think ...

Target particular groups, you're targeting particular groups. i mean, if this were on the other foot, and this was a george w. administration, they were targeting groups that were calling themselves progressives, i would say it's prima facie evidence of targeting. i don't think it's complicated. what's your view, congressman? >> my view is that the criteria were very inappropriate. there was terrible mismanagement. i think there was very terrible oversight. and there was a failure to be in touch as they should have with the congress. but the i.g., the inspector general, when asked was there an...