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People, does anybody there jump out, and you say that s the person i would not want to run against in a tough economy? actually, the republican party faces a stature gap. we saw in 2010 the democrats with an enthusiasm gap. they re looking for somebody who cannot only rally the tea party regulars, but also appeal to some of what i call the regular republicans. so they have a big job on their hands. but i want to say this about mike pence, as i also worked for ephart back in the day. it s been over 131 years since we elected somebody directly from the house of the representatives to the oval office. we have 15 president who is have served in the house of representatives. most members of congress know it s very difficult to go straight to oval office. at 51 years old, he s going to try to be governor of indiana. we ll have a conversation about pence for president down the road a little bit. let s move on. the candidates for chicago mayor will debate next hour. rahm emanuel will be ....