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Anger a few white nationalists because we're taking down a statue of robert e. lee, fine, get mad. >> i've been skeptical of the rush to tear all these things down. there's a distension between robert e. lee and nathan bedford forest. an early figure in the klan. but if these monuments are going to become rallying points for neo-nazis, maybe they do all have to go. >> and you wonder, why would you erect a monument? the confederacy waged war on the united states. so the idea of putting up those monuments didn't happen right after the civil war. it happened during the 1960s. it happened over the...

These monuments are about southern heritage. no. they are giant, concrete shrines to white nationalism. a lot of people will hear that and get angry on this. >> let them get angry. >> a lot are going to say it's about. >> this is about time. >> that's right. >> it's very hard for me to have this conversation with you as a black woman and not personalize it. but we have talked about this before. we talked about this on the show, about the confederate flag and what black people think when they see that. you talk -- it's impossible given the legacy of slavery there this country and given the -- w...

Because we're taking down a statue of robert e. lee, fine, get mad. >> i've been skeptical of the rush to tear all these things down. there's a distension between robert e. lee and nathan bedford forest. if these monuments are going to be rallying points for neo-nazis, maybe they have to go. >> why would you erect a monument -- the confederacy waged war on the united states. so the idea of putting up those monuments didn't happen right after the civil war. it happened during the 1960s. it happened over the fight for desegregating schools. these monuments immediately -- in the immediate afterma...

And what black people think when they see that. you talk -- it's impossible given the legacy of slavery there this country and given the -- what black people went through during the civil rights movement, given all of -- these are descendents of the people who were standing outside that public school in new orleans throwing oranges at that little girl as she was being taken in. these are the -- these are the same people. this is the same fight that has been going on in this country for more than 200 years. the idea that we're going to anger a few white nationalists because we're taking down a ...

That's fun and insights your solidarity with others you're almost certainly not doing your cause any good. can you elaborate on that a little bit? >> well i was struck as you talked about the people demonstrating in the end against this law and my first thought was i wonder how many of thome voted in the last election. i wonder how many of them voted whengislateors who were voting for this were being elected. like i said before i agree with occupy more than the tea party. i wish the occupy would show it. when many people on the left get mad, they march. people on the right, they vote. voting m...