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Sunday church service every event you go to, whether in a big hall or small living room. then, you have elizabeth warren who came in and was trying to extract a lot of energy out of people from frustrations out of bill oil corporations. you have that contrast. i mention they're humans because the humans react to the president in different ways. i want to play you the contrast between elizabeth warren and cory booker this weekend and how they directed their attention to president. >> by the time we get to 2020, donald trump may not even be president. in fact, he may not even be a free person. >...

Boundaries are here. is that your sense, as well as someone who was once a federal judge? >> well, the problem here is, of course, because we're talking about obstruction of justice vis-a-vis a president, you're talking about an impeachment proceeding. and that's where the line between politics and law get muddied. in other words, there won't be an obstruction of justice charge against the president by way of indictment. so essentially the house of representatives, the senate can define what obstruction of justice is and are not necessarily even bound by the legal definition of it. so what wil...

Somewhere somehow that there's no way the process just develops without some federal could yours having to weigh in on where the boundaries are here. is that your sense, as well as someone who was once a federal judge? >> well, the problem here is, of course, because we're talking about obstruction of justice vis-a-vis a president, you're talking about an impeachment proceeding. and that's where the line between politics and law get muddied. in other words, there won't be an obstruction of justice charge against the president by way of indictment. so essentially the house of representatives, t...