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Supervision. >> yes. >> you're the medical director. >> reporter: dr. oliver is in fact a very busy doctor. he runs a private practice, has been medical director at dozens of rehab clinics, and also has found time to appear on tv shows. >> 200-degree environment you would only survive just a few minutes. >> reporter: including as a frequent guest on cnn's sister network hln as a medical expert for nancy grace. how he handles all this while overseeing the drug rehab of thousands of california drug medi-c medi-cal recipients is easy he explains. he doesn't see most of the people he oversees who ...

Supervision. >> yes. >> you are the medical director. >> he runs a private practice, has been medical director and has found time to afear on tv show shows. >> just a few minutes. >> including as a frequent guest on cnn's sister network hln as the medical expert for nancy grace. how he handles all this while overseeing the drug reham of thousands of california drug medical recipients is easy, he explains. he doesn't actually see most of the people getting treatment, who he says are clients, by the way, not patients. and he even admits he wouldn't foe if they are real or as fraud investigators ...

Director. dr. oliver is a very busy doctor. he runs a private practice, has been medical director at dozens of rehab clinics, and also has found time to appear on tv shows. >> 200-degree environment, you would only survive a matter of just a few minutes. 3including as a frequent guest on cnn's sister network hln as a medical expert for nancy grace. how he handles all of this, while overseeing the drug rehab of thousands of california drug medical recipients, is easy he explains. he doesn't actually see most of the people getting treatment, who he says are clients by the way, not patients. or a...

Bill the state for ghost clients. >> well, i don't know that they're ghost clients. >> exactly. what is your point of being the medical director here if you don't even know that these clients are real people? >> sounds like you're asking me to be the police here. i'm not the police. >> i'm asking you -- >> i got certain duties. >> you're a physician, right? >> yes. >> physicians treat people? >> yes. >> people are real and they breathe air. >> right. >> but these clinics are billing for people who are not anything. >> i don't have a duty to see every client that comes in here. and to question ...