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Points that they were trying to make. >> but somebody died because of those actions. >> right. >> and because of that rally. and it doesn't matter to me whose side they're on, innocent people shouldn't die. >> this might come across the wrong way to certain people, but i think if we were separated, we wouldn't have these issues. throwing everyone together and blending them together and saying, hey, get along, obviously that's not working. the people who want to be living together in harmony and unity should be allowed to do that, but the people who don't should be allowed to do their own thing...

Get when you wore that shirt out? >> not good ones. when i wore this shirt, it was mainly to provoke people. >> were you ever embarrassed to wear it? >> you start to question it more and more, you do start to feel a sense of embarrassment when it comes to the symbols. >> you know, that embarrassment is empathy. you were worried about how it would affect other people. it wasn't so much your embarrassment of wearing it but i think what you were feeling is how that might affect others as you were changing. you may not even recognize that. you know, i see a confederate flag hanging on your wall. a...

Blood and soil? >> i was not chanting that, but one of the primary dominant themes of the alt-right is skepticism and criticism of jewish power. >> do you believe the holocaust happened? >> i don't know. i'm not a historian. >> you can sugar coat this all you want, you can claim a public face that has a smile on it, but behind those closed doors i know exactly what you guys are. i've spoken -- >> no, you don't know who we are. >> i do. i do. >> i can say that there are more people -- >> we used to be able to spot a skinhead or a klansman a mile away and we knew they were dangerous. this new mo...

They learned to do this. >> one, two, three. there you go. >> if somebody were to look at gabe a year ago, from a mile away they would have judged him as being a monster. >> another 15 seconds. 3/4s done. five, four. you got. come on. you're tough eput it on, you got to be tough enough to get it taken off.

The detective looked at me and he said, she was pronounced -- and i remember just putting my head down and sobbing so loud. for the first few weeks, i kept thinking i raised her just to have her go away like this? but the -- the impact that her death has made on so many people, i guess i can -- i can bear it for that. maybe the world will be a better place because of it. >> what legacy do you want this to leave? >> i want us to help capture those kids who are vulnerable, who are needing friendship. let's pre-emptively prevent it in the first place.