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Pat, great to see you. it has been a while, so i will start with you. you have analyzed media and politics for many years, when you look at this type of coverage and you look at the what do you say to the media? are they getting the trump bump for the ratings? and do they need it or will they survive without it? >> i assume that they would survive no matter what, but they have been building their ratings on this. it did not start the early dayse of this administration. as pew says, we have had it for the entire year, headed through the entire campaign, more and more studies that show that the ...

Results. we can't do that anymore. we can't spend money on programs just because they sound good. meals on wheels sounds great. that's a state decision to fund that particular portion, to take the federal money and give it to the states and say, look, we to want give you money for programs that don't work. i can't defend that anymore. we cannot defend that anymore. $20 trillion in debt. we're going to spend money, we're going to spend a lot of money but we're not going to spend it on programs that show they deliver the promises we made to people. >> do work or don't work, there's a program in ...

Just because they sound good. meals on wheels sounds great. that's a state decision to fund that particular portion, to take the federal money and give it to the states and say, look, we to want give you money for programs that don't work. i can't defend that anymore. we cannot defend that anymore. $20 trillion in debt. we're going to spend money, we're going to spend a lot of money but we're not going to spend it on programs that show they deliver the promises we made to people. >> do work or don't work, there's a program in pennsylvania, rural counties of pennsylvania that provides after-sch...

And in fact our success in dealing with terrorists through our justice system reinforces why it is past time to shut down the detention facility at guantanamo. [ applause ] this is not just my opinion, it's the opinion ofany military leaders. during my administration, we have responsibly transferred over 175 detainees to foreign governments with safe guards to reduce the risk of them returning to the battlefield. we've cut the population at git mo from 242, to 159. -- from being transferred to prisons in the united states upon ev. even though as we speak, we house dangerous terrorists in priso...

Right. that was a clear rebuke to donald trump, especially on this issue of a religious test for muslims. a lot of strong language coming from the president. at the very end, we also heard a thank you from president obama to these troops who are here listening and cheering on their president. this was the first post presidential speech barack obama gave. he sounded like a historian, like a law professor, when he's laying out in six bullet points what we wants his counterterrorism strategy to be remembered for. and you're right in saying, it was remarkably defensive, not just to attacks on the ...