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>> because from a legal standpoint, a wife isn't going to be called in to testify against her husband. >> right. she is -- she has privilege with anything that he might have said to her and her opinion about whether or not this affair took place would certainly not be legally relevant, other than any communications that she may have had. so that's just an argument of no substance. but this is a pattern with giuliani. he keeps making things up and representing subjects that he has no knowledge of. the same day, secretary of state pompeo slapped giuliani down, because giuliani said, you know, ki...

Whether or not this affair took place would certainly not be legally relevant, other than any communications that she may have had. so that's just an argument of no substance. but this is a pattern with giuliani. he keeps making things up and representing subjects that he has no knowledge of. the same day, secretary of state pompeo slapped giuliani down, because giuliani said, you know, kim jong-un came begging and crawling back to the summit. and pompeo said, well, he doesn't speak for us in foreign policy. so he's just out there riffing on television. and i don't think anyone is, at this poi...

Can't help himself. >> had a similar answer out o the briefing today. there are four different types of responses when a question is asked. there's a direct answer, there is a not to my knowledge answer, to my understanding, and this is what i knew at the time. those were the four kind of answers we get out of this administration. that's what giuliani is saying, look, to the best of my understanding. look -- >> the two of you could sit giuliani down and media training -- >> he needs it desperately. >> if no other money was paid to other women, which i would hope that's the case, but i doubt it...