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>> so we have a housing crisis. there is so many americans who are either homeless or faced with home -- housing insecurity. especially right now as we look at the cold weather, i represent one of the cold estates. and last night on a given night, 10,000 minnesotans were homeless. and of that, 6,000 were young people. we have children who are showing up every single day to our schools faced with homelessness or housing insecurity. so this is an issue that faces every single american regardless of what corner of our country they are in, and it's about time for us to engage and make sure that we...

Robin steinberg founded the bail project dedicated to help those who can't afford bail to stay out of prison. a brush with prison as a young woman led to alive of activism for topeka sam, sounder of the ladies of hope ministries, focusing on helping women in prisons and helping them get what they need out of it. she created hope house, offering women support and safety as they transition back into society. good to have both of you join the panel. robin, i want to talk to you about this idea of bail. any given night there are almost 500,000 people sitting pretrial, sitting in jail for the only ...

Has been put up of late is outrageous. it's certainly fueling the divisiveness that we see. it's gotten to the point where it's at the boiling point, it's at the tipping point. but i want in fairness, though, if you talk to the secret service, the fbi, people that are on the intelligence collection, you know, who collect this type of information, every day they're going out and making contact with people that are considering or thinking about assassinating this president. and that in and of itself is troubling. so i just -- you know, in fairness, that's the world we're living in. >> julia, wha...

Or thinking about assassinating this president. and that in and of itself is troubling. so i just -- you know, in fairness, that's the world we're living in. >> julia, what do you say to that? >> i get that. don, let me ask you something blunt, how many people watch your show on a given night, 2 million, a million? >> a million or so people in and out. >> the president of the united states has 30, 40 million twitter followers only. so the idea that it's the both sides isn't right. i know you didn't mean it that way. in the sense that it's happening on both sides. what we need to look at now is...

Border and stop immigration. in fact, stacy abrams, the democrat candidate from the governor of a gah -- san francisco passed a rule that allows people here illegally to vote. >> devastating images. look at these images. they're devastating. >> you talk about mobs versus jobs. you're seeing exactly the kind of mob behavior that the democrats have led to. >> but two blocks from here, newt, there's a homeless shelter. any given night, there are individuals outside waiting to get in. there are not enough beds. they're on the streets. they're destitute. many of them former military. they're vetera...