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In 1977. it could be a factor but until we get the black boxes, this is all speculation in my opinion. >> david, as a former faa investigator it's surprising to me frankly, that we get this preliminary report from the weather agency saying that we don't even have the black boxes. do you think it's just too soon? >> it really is and it is extraordinary that they would have put this out at this point. sure there's weather, sure there's ice. it's too early to conclude that that had anything to do with this accident and i'm quite surprised in my investigations and all those in the faa, nts kbrks,b...

Defuse the situation. he talks about, right what they would have found if they'd gone looking, right? >> yeah. he did. i mean, he talked about, it was a close call, that he was worried police were on to his plan, and that they were going to fail his plans. because inside his bedroom was the guns, the ammunition, the manifesto, sort of a layout of the plans for this rampage, according to police, he had been plotting this for a year. but you have to remember, police are called on these, to do these welfare checks quite often, and in order to go into someone's house and check their home, you have...

Very clear what with the american people. i think the profound comments that bill clinton made yesterday -- i think play right into where the american people are. and i come to you, martin, from the middle of the country. i can guarantee, i talked to a lot of people this weekend and a number of different locations in minnesota and in north dakota, and i can tell you that they're not hanging on what the next amendment is going to be. that's not where the american people are right now. the american people right now are -- are we going to have a shutdown, and who is responsible for it, and how do...

What -- is that surprising to you? >> no, i'm not surprised at all, given what's at stake. look, the reason why i think this president has waited is because he's trying to get international support, international support from syria's, you know, neighbors, international support from the arab leagues and others. i think it's important that the president will allow congress to debate this. >> and what does it say about our political system that if we can't get the british -- >> last word. >> that only then do we go to congress? it's like they're the outlier of last resort? >> and i think they sti...

African-american vote. obama has that sewn up. what they are trying to do, and it is a smart strategy. they're trying to make the appeal to suburban white voters and swing voters that they're not as extreme as you would think the republicans were, given what was the archie bunker primaries where they offended everybody from african hispanics everybody else. >> the archie bunker -- >> yeah. what they're trying to do is send the message that they are this kinder, gentler, more centrist republican party. they're not really going after african-american votes. they know they'll never get it. >> mit...