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His right-wing surrogates have talked about that. so now parlatore has departed and where we're left is a legal team that was always a little bit slap dash continuing in that way minus one important person. >> i mean, i'm not going to play it but bill barr yesterday, glenn, said all along, the case i'm most concerned about if i was the former president is the mar-a-lago case. he agrees with ty cobb that this is criminal peril for donald trump. the reason parlatore left is because one of the things is not like the others. only trump's documents probe faces obstruction of justice investigation w...

Exposure so he will probably never testify. pence, his testimony is extraordinarily important. >> let me show you one other thing that we know from glenn's coverage and our analysis and watching the public hearings, that the congressional committee produced and put on last summer. the committee was able to get around the edges of this phone call between pence and trump on the morning of trump uses the p-word, based on testimony and news accounts and here is how close the congressional committee without talking to pence or trump who were the two parties on the call, here is how close they got t...

Anxious to get to trial in manhattan any time quickly and we should note that trump could try to intervene to block pence's testimony before the d.c. grand jury. >> let me bring into the conversation someone glenn has already invoked or heard from on the tape of some of the interviews that i've played already. former lead investigator for the january 6 select committee tim halfy is our guest we played some of your questioning of greg jacob and some of the testimony of others about pence's experience that day. we saw with our own eyes how he and his family were evacuated and glenn reported that...

That any president should have a humanitarian bent on a night like this but may not shock others. and then there's a different view, that deep down he actually does not think there is any such thing as rule of law, that is to say, the thing that unite people in both parties historically, jon meacham talking about republican presidents who have taken a different approach, the thing that the founders thought would keep us united to some degree, even through rough times. the idea of nonpartisan rule of law, what every law student studies, there aren't r's and d's next to the judge's names, and yo...

Congress and it warrants allowing bob mueller to do his job without any interference. >> congressman adam schiff, thank you so much. >> thanks, ari. joe arpaio now tweeting his thanks to president tonight during this hurricane. "thank you donald trump for seeing my conviction for what it is, a political witch hunt by holdovers in the obama justice department." joining us now is "new york times" correspondent glenn flush. starting with the latest on arpaio, what can you tell us about what led up to this decision and how the use of this hurricane, as we've been reporting, seems to be the timin...