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Intent for a moscow business plan and lied about it. something don jr. testified about before congress. it is impossible, impossible to evaluate whether today s foreign policy decisions and announcements and defensible on their merits were done for american interests or whether they are some secret deal or some other reason for the president s action. joining me is marcy wheeler, independent journalist and glen kirchner. glen, i ll start with you. you were in the courtroom when the judge floated treason. what was the reaction in that moment? what did you think about it and make of it? yeah, so, chris, i think when we heard the judge raise the possibility or the question of the prosecutors about, you know, whether there was any potential for general glyn to have been charged with treason, we were all kind of taken aback, but and i don t think treason necessarily applies to general ....