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The economic situation of the states, the unemployment rates as well as the very vast difference in the electorates, is that why these others will potentially hang on and go ugly against mitt romney? >> i think it's personal hate. >> good lord, it seems -- >> they can try, but at the end of the day, i don't think it works in south carolina. if you told me that newt was going to spend $5 million showing clips of mitt romney from 1994 saying that he was pro-choice and pro-gun control and pro-gay marriage, then at that point, i would say, yes, he could cut into mitt romney's strength. but going a...

Why it's going to be so tough for him, because this kind of sterling, clean record of winning fairly easily, because he hasn't had any opponents that have, you know, when he ran against alan keyes, he didn't have to go ugly, because alan keyes was his own worst enemy. he didn't have to go against mccain -- >> but feehery, you have just been contradictory -- you said he's going to go ugly, but he's never gone ugly. >> i said that's the only way he can win, is go ugly, but i think it's going to be risky for him, is what i said. >> let's go to michael feldman with the democrat. you sized up your ...

>> i don't think he ever has. and that's why, i think that's why it's going to be so tough for him, because this kind of sterling, clean record of winning fairly easily, because he hasn't had any opponents that have, you know, when he ran against alan keyes, he didn't have to go ugly, because alan keyes was his own worst enemy. he didn't have to go against mccain -- >> but feehery, you have just been contradictory -- you said he's going to go ugly, but he's never gone ugly. >> i said that's the only way he can win, is go ugly, but i think it's going to be risky for him, is what i said. >> let'...

Motivate my base and freeze the middle so they don't come out? the only way he can do that -- he's certainly not going to run on his record. the only way he can do that is go hard after mitt romney. the risk for barack obama is if he goes ugly early, it is going to splash up on him and people are going to see right through that. and i think it could really hurt him with independent voters. >> you just used the word "ugly." it is ugly to say that mitt romney is quite flexible in his position taking? is that ugly, to say something that seems to manifest? >> no, but i don't think necessarily that...