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Targeting and we will be aggressive in issuing pardons. >> do you see that strategy, congressman walsh, as feasible? can you beat trump up essentially saying i'm better than the original? >> john, god no. first of all because max is right. desantis has zero personality, charisma. say what you want about trump but he's got personality. that's the thing, john. republican based voters runoff donald trump. it's got nothing to do with policy. it's not policy based. you can't attack trump on policy. it's all personality. he's the victim. he's the bully. desantis can never out do that. john, desantis...

The original? >> oh, john, god no, god no. first of all because max is right, desantis has zero personality, charisma. say what you want about trump, but he's got personality. and that's the thing, john. republican base voters love donald trump. it's got nothing to do with policy. it's not policy based. you can't attack trump on policy. it's all personality. he's the victim. he's the bully. desantis can never outdo that. and john, desantis is trapped. ron desantis cannot say that the 2020 election was not stolen. he can never say that or he's done. and when donald trump is indicted again, ron ...

Thinks that there wasn't massive fraud in the 2020 election should be fired, end quote. former white house aide cassidy hutchinson added this about that memo, saying she addressed cipollone about it, she said, pat looked at it and said something to the effect of "god no," but cipollone said he did not remember that interaction. what's more, alyssa farrah griffin described her tenure as, quote, a wild eight months. griffin revealed one serious skbron going problem was a lack of organization to the surprise of no one. she described a white house where jobs were filled with more underqualified st...

Payments. it was extended not just in april but in august. joe biden extended this student loan payments when inflation was already an 8.5%. so that is a handout to the rich. and by the way, just as texas ruling, is not the only there's another chink in the armor. there's another additional ruling from another court that is expected in current day. so this might just be dead in the water. >> interesting do you think you admitted to to the broken promise? oh, god no. we'll be right back.

Know, if there was no law, then donald trump didn't break it, and it seems like republicans are all too eager to commit their blind loyalty to this president, and it's hard to imagine that someone can be pro-trump and pro-america at a time when the evidence is really stacked against him. have you seen any sign that anyone other than kinzinger and liz cheney are willing to buck this administration and buck this president and say, yes, i will stand up for america today and say what i'm seeing is not right? >> oh, god no. right now the republican party has a strong occultive personality appearanc...