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Hostage to this extreme fringe i m not entirely sure boehner can even convince them how bad a shutdown actually is even if a shutdown is colonel taking place. the good news the harm is cumulative. a little harm one day, smaller amount the next day and on and on. with the debt ceiling it s a complete different story. that s a cliff. it doesn t get worse and worse and worse. you re fine. then the step that goesocity cliff, you re going all the way to the bottom. we don t know how bad if we default. it could be a global economic meltdown. that s way worse than a shutdown. i m sort of repeating myself but that s like 1,000 times worse than a government shutdown. that s the fight the republicans want to seem to have. i d much rather have a government shutdown. having lived through the clinton shutdown, i was furloughed because i was nonessential for one of them and essential for another one. it created such a bizarre ....

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