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Three, after the first midterm of a president's first term, that's a good time to be changing the nation's health care plan. i think she's struggling with it. she struggled with a lot of positions but this one i think is causing her suffering in iowa. >> jen psaki, one of the reasons buttigieg is rising is because they see him kind of like as the goldilocks candidate, not too hot, not too cold, just right. if you look at the polling, not too liberal, not too conservative, about right. buttigieg, 63%. wow, 3% of people think sanders is too conservative. okay. i got to give it to them. in any ca...

A lot to do with it. the candidates that are below them are not as well known. the fact that we haven't seen these candidates go up against each other yet has something to do with it. it is definitely situational. biden and sanders have a huge advantage, coming from the left portion of the party. biden more from the centrist wing of the party. again, as you point out the numbers, a lot of people look at him as a goldilocks candidate. >> in the zone. i want to talk about the appeal of joe biden. a majority, 64%, say joe biden is more experienced. 34% say the time for him has passed and he shoul...

Alternative to some of the more liberal contenders and a midwesterner that can win back wisconsin, michigan and ohio. cacan klobuchar emerge? kyle, you're a fellow midwesterner. what is her selling point to democrats? >> she can be a goldilocks candidate. she is young, she's 58. she acts presidential. she's not instagraming den instl cleanings. she's liberal but she's not too liberal. she supports green jobs but she says i'm a capitalist. she supports universal health care but is not in favor of the medicare for all bill offered by bernie sanders. she can pull a little from everywhere. she cou...

The two-term senator positioning herself as the pragmatic alternative to some of the more liberal contenders and a midwesterner that can win back wisconsin, michigan and ohio. cacan klobuchar emerge? kyle, you're a fellow midwesterner. what is her selling point to democrats? >> she can be a goldilocks candidate. she is young, she's 58. she acts presidential. she's not instagraming den instl cleanings. she's liberal but she's not too liberal. she supports green jobs but she says i'm a capitalist. she supports universal health care but is not in favor of the medicare for all bill offered by bern...

Of his potential. he will make a play not only to democrats. isn't that his message to republicans including his message to jeb bush love you, respect your service, it's time for a few generation? >> absolutely. it can't be a trick. right now he can't insult jeb bush. he is a belove edd figure would you tell being insulting to jeb bush. >> it strikes to me she a goldilocks candidate. >> somebody who is both electable and safe for the donor class. at the same time. somebody for the grass roots reflects a true conservative. that's the path he will take. appealing to both parts of the party t. ch...