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union have been taking part in a oneday strike, causing disruption to rail services across britain. now on bbc news, nick robinson in conversation with people who influence our political thinking about what has shaped theirs. hello. welcome to political thinking, a conversation with rather than an interrogation of someone who's shaped our political thinking about what has shaped theirs. my guest this week is better known, he's more trusted, he's arguably more influential than many politicians. chief executives and chancellors of the exchequer have good reason to fear what martin lewi...

when the three—storey stucture came down in the western city of espinal. colombia's president—elect has called for amateur bullfights to be banned. now on bbc news, political thinking with nick robinson. hello. welcome to political thinking, a conversation with rather than an interrogation of someone who's shaped our political thinking about what has shaped theirs. my guest this week is better known, he's more trusted, he's arguably more influential than many politicians. chief executives and chancellors of the exchequer have good reason to fear what martin lewis says. the founde...

to fear what martin lewis says. the founder of the moneysavingexpert website and the newsletter has many millions of followers who hang on his conclusions about how, yes, they should be saving money. the ft once dubbed him the most successful journalist in the world ever. he's called the current cost—of—living crisis shocking and scary and anxiety—driving. and he warned at one stage that he was running out of tips to help people to get through it. martin lewis, welcome to political thinking. thank you. i'm... can i speak straightaway? you can. of course, you can speak at any ti...

And i do think the two can go hand in hand, but generally i'm safer in the numbers. that's my thought process. even if i do a big speech, and i like speaking, i think i'm pretty all right on it. and you know, even an emotional speech, there's often, there's often number patterns in there about how many things i'll do. you know, we all know the rule of three, but there are other ways to do it. i had been told you sometimes dream about spreadsheets. now i wouldn't quite go that far, but i do have spreadsheets on lots of things i like. i mean, i play golf. i have every golf round goes in there an...

You count the numbers, but where did this obsession with numbers begin? i've always been, i've always been a numbers person. i mean, i'm not, i'm nota full on because, you know, a lot of what i have to do, you have to be quite creative as well. and i do think the two can go hand in hand, but generally i'm safer in the numbers. that's my thought process. even if i do a big speech, and i like speaking, i think i'm pretty all right on it. and you know, even an emotional speech, there's often, there's often number patterns in there about how many things i'll do. you know, we all know the rule of t...