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They need to be enforced. most u.s. employers if they know what the rules are and you have effective e-verify system, they are going to play by the rules. they are not going to hire people illegally here. but we've got to enforce the rules and make it a level playing field for all u.s. employers. that's part of the equation. those are the four pieces. put those into place and we will have actual honest to goodness control of our border. which is a southern country, this is something that we ought to -- which is a sovereign country this is something that we ought to do, need to do. it takes tim...

Most u.s. employers if they know what the rules are and you have effective e-verify system, they are going to play by the rules. they are not going to hire people illegally here. but we've got to enforce the rules and make it a level playing field for all u.s. employers. that's part of the equation. those are the four pieces. put those into place and we will have actual honest to goodness control of our border. which is a southern country, this is something that we ought to -- which is a sovereign country this is something that we ought to do, need to do. it takes time and effort but we need t...