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Gender outlaw from the time she said being a little girl is a torment and she insisted that everybody call her jimmy. she wore boy's clothes and that was the world view she had when he went to hollywood. she didn't want to start playing the game of hollywood where you put on the prettiest dress. >> i mean, katharine hepburn made pants happen. >> it was seen as being tomboyish look often with mannish jackets. so it was that glamorization of that androgynous look for women. >> she did it beautifully and i think in a very feminine way. she didn't look as though she was trying to be a man and fool...

Hollywood. she didn't want to play the game of hollywood, put on your prettiest dress. >> katharine hepburn made pants happen. >> it was seen as being a very tomboyish look, often with mannish jackets. so it was a glamourization of that androgenous look for women. >> she did it beautifully and i think in a very feminine way and she didn't look as if she was trying to be a man and fool all of us. she was catherine hepburn and she is saying here i am and i'm me and i love that about her. >> there was a huge pushback against hepburn wearing pants. gossip columnists would spend it the entire colum...

She didn't want to the belate game of hollywood, put on your prettyist dress. >> katharine hepburn made pants happen. >> it was seen as being a very tomboyish look, often with mannish jackets. so it was a glar morization of that androgenous look for women. >> smooel she did it beautifully and i think in a very feminine way and she didn't look as if she was trying to be a man and fool all of us. she was catherine hepburn and she is saying here i am and i'm me and i love that aboutler. >> there was a huge pushback against hepburn wearing pants. gossip columnists would spend it the entire column ...

Is the "national enquirer" gave a lot of very positive coverage to donald trump and a lot of very negative coverage to his opponents. why did that happen? how did that develop? that was one of the things we were interested in figuring out. in my reporting, what i found when i was talking to people was that there were actual stories that were sent prior to publication over to michael cohen with the express purpose of making sure that they were okay with him. >> does this -- is this -- because we heard so much here in new york. donald trump and gossip columnists. is this like a similar thing whe...

Tabloid and that just folds into the campaign? is that what happened here? >> i think that's one way to think about it, right? it's totally acceptable for a celebrity or a reality star or someone who is a new york real estate developer to make lots of calls to gossip columnists and want to be a source for lots of information. the rules change a little bit when you are a candidate. you still can talk to as many publications as you want. you can suggest stories. you can -- i mean there's nothing about that that's problematic. the issue becomes one, and this is sort of what the investigators are ...