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But they're there to help us with their land, and that's a different thing. >> it's hard to know what that even means, but the president seems to be suggesting that the kurds have always been just been in it for themselves. keep in mind more than 10,000 kurds have been killed in the fight against isis, a fight we asked them to undertake. we did not do most of the fighting. we had a lot of logistical support, a lot of on the ground support, but they lost 10,000 people. he also said this about isis fighters and our nato allies. >> well, they're going to be escaping to europe. that's where they w...

Before the break, david gergen referred to the way the president is acting and how it's affecting his presidency, which on top of the breaking news is really part of a larger question tonight. namely, are we now witnessing what people, including those who used to be close to president trump, have long worried and frankly warned about? are we seeing on several fronts the consequences of a president without guardrails, without what used to be called, fairly or not, the adults in the room, people who at the very least had experience and could steer him away from impulsive decisions and protect hi...

True, and there's the transcript and the president's own comments which prove that. >> well, i think that conceivably the whistle-blower has some details that haven't been drawn out yet. so i wouldn't dismiss the whistle-blower's account. i do think it could have some importance. but i also think, anderson, when the american people have a sense that the rage and the obsession and sort of the craziness that's coming out of the white house, that's going to make more and more people feel uncomfortable about having him serve as president for another term. i think this is -- the way he is acting is...

So-called adults in his surprise decision after a call with turkey's president to pull troops out of northern syria, which has now led to a turkish invasion aimed at this country's staunchest ally in the fight against isis? a whistle-blower who is entitled to protection from a boss's retaliation is now facing an open call for just that from the president of the united states. the president who is supposed to uphold the rights and protections that are enshrined in our laws even if they're not in his personal best interests. this president cannot do that. it is all about him. it always has been ...

Go away? you're going to hear in at from susan rice who served as national security adviser in strong thoughts on the subject. but first, what president trump said just this afternoon about the whistle-blower. >> what the whistle-blower said bore no relationship to what the call was. then it turns out the whistle-blower was in cahoots with schiff. then it turns out that the whistle-blower is a democrat, strong democrat, and is working with one of my opponents as a democrat that i might end up running against. when you see what the whistle-blower said about the phone call -- and it was totally ...