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Roberts, two by president obama. each got votes from the other side. that's the norm. but when you have the federalist society and the heritage foundation have a veto power over who you choose, you won't get bipartisanship. >> everybody has interest groups on their side. >> no. >> that does these things. >> no no no. >> final question. do you have the votes -- do you have the votes to filibuster neil gorsuch, do you have it? >> look, what happened was that when gorsuch refused to answer the most rudimentary questions in the hearings after there were many doubts about him to begin with, he woul...

>> senator, what makes you think that president trump -- let's say you get your wish and he says, okay, merrick garland for neil gorsuch is fine. everybody got to kill a supreme court nominee, we move on. you get your wish. do you think he'll nominate someone more moderate than gorsuch that he doesn't nominate another conservative and says, look, we gave you one shot at this. you've got your shot. now he's another perhaps even more conservative potential justice? >> as you have noted and i have noted, most of the nominees get 60 votes. the last four nominees, two by president bush, alito and r...