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Long time. there were a lot of things we needed to do to get folks to turn out. i think they did a really good job building an infrastructure and treating african-american voters with respect, and they -- what they did was, instead of doing the typical gotv operation, they did mail, tv, radio. >> treated them like swing voters. >> exactly. the mission was different. they needed to be persuaded in an off-presidential election. >> that's something that the -- at my party doesn't do a good enough job of. >> neerths part, does frankly. nick, one thing that stood out to me, one, i found him evaluat...

Mainstream behavior and his beliefs. doug jones has been a pretty good candidate. it's a good race. it's close but it's tough. four things have to happen for jones to win. one, you need a low republican turnout. republicans who can't vote for moore won't vote for jones. you need a high turnout amongst women. suburban women. democratic women. independent women. you need a very high turnout amongst african-americans in particular and last, but not least, you need a great gotv operation. now, the democrats haven't had a plus rating in alabama since 1976. so, the fact that they could have any kind...