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You go back to pablo taking on george h.w. bush. i chose to focus on this ten-year period specifically starting in 2008 because i think what you had then, in that year, george w. bush leaving office with record unpopularity. john mccain picking sarah palin as his vice presidential running mate, and obviously palin exposing this enormous gulf between the republican governing class and many of the conservative voters around the country who felt that they had been ignored and sort of trampled under and taken for granted. and then you the economic collapse, that fall in 2008 and the bank bailout w...

Mo marble edifice of the supreme court. it's being trashed. no matter what, let's say have doe get through. he can sit up there to the year 2058, 40 years from now. there will always be a cloud over this. this has been handled atrociously. the reality is that we have a governing class in the country that is utterly faithless to the idea and the notion that what they should be doing up there is strengthening our institutions and looking ahead ten years, 20 years. how do we strengthen the republic. that they are stewards of a great inheritance and that that. >> you've run supreme court nominatio...

Brennan. what did you think? >> i don't understand why these folks keep their clearances anyway. we are not supposed to have a permanent governing class. i think the idea is do your time, serve your country come and go back to the private sector. i think it's fine not only to take his clearance away. i think a lot of these former official should give up their clearances. none of these folks are indispensable. the government will go on just fine without them. there are other talented, hardworking men and women working to defend our country. i don't have a problem with it. >> neil: what did you ...

Themselves they would do when they were in high school and college reading about the rise of hitler or reading about corrupt dictators in africa and they said, you know, if i'm ever in a moment like that, you think to yourself in college, i'm going to be that guy who is brave. and the fact that we have an entire governing class on the right in which not one american, with a couple of exceptions, is willing to do this suggests to me a very diseased body politics. >> tim, what is the risk for a member of congress, for paul ryan -- although he is not the example anymore because he is leaving -- c...

And rise -- i don't believe in a governing class. that being said, what are your policies? what are you for? what do you advocate? the last occupy everywhere of the oval office was decidedly anti-personal in my view. and i don't know that americans are ready for something like that again. i think we have had enough of it and to bring the conversation full circle we saw evidence last knight of just that as the current president, donald trump, marched on to a field hand over heart and saluting the flag, the anthem and the country. steve: back to basics. chris sal saicedo, thank you for joining u...