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Right now for the minority. they want to make sure that biden cannot govern and show that he has a governing majority. and so that is what we're watching unfortunately. >> charlie, i want to get your thoughts on vaccine mandates because i know that you're not a fan. so i want what your thoughts are on that. but in terms of the federal mandate since it has been implemented, for federal employees, the compliance rate of getting vaccinated is upwards of something like 95%. so it is effective. i get that you don't like it. >> i'm okay with the federal mandates on government workers -- federal work...

Speech. they go on to argue, instead of ignoring race, democrats must confront it and explain that powerful elites and special interests use it as a tool of division to distract people of all working races while they get robbed blind, then pivot back to shared interests. that's their message and this is not just an abstract conversation about political strategy and the op-ed pages of the times. this is something the democrats need to start taking seriously. republicans are feeling emboldened after their win in virginia, they took away a message, we can do nothing to help people in their lives ...

It and we've been talk, there is so much riding on this. real quickly, gloria, before i let you go. the fact that former president obama is putting out a statement about this and he's basically saying, look, this could be transformational. this is a real big deal. there's a lot in that bill. >> right. >> he's also in that statement saying suck it up. get on board. >> right. >> who is that for, do you think? is that for progressives? >> i think it is. >> for disgruntled voters. >> i think he's talking to progressives, you know, because the progressives are the ones right now who believe that ma...

Where do they stand? >> yeah, bret. this ching is still a mess. and i think the democrats are having problems because they are trying to pass legislation built for majorities they don't have. the biggest thing they are dealing with here is they are in control of a 50/50 senate. it's not even a majority but it's a majority because they have the vice president's ty breaking vote. in the house they have a five seat majority. that is nothing. it is not a governing majority. and what they can't get over is that they have centrists and liberals on opposite sides of the page and nobody wants to give ...

Ultimatums. isn't that exactly where the democrats were a month ago when they blew past their original september deadline? >> it is, but it's also a little different, wolf. i mean, nothing focuses the mind like a president who is going abroad and who has been calling people in, saying don't embarrass me. we need to have some kind of agreement here on climate before i go to this summit. also, nothing focuses the mind like an election coming up next week, where you have two democratic governors who are very, very much worried about this. the democrats have to prove that they can be a governing m...