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Words. that's well and good. as it airs out in the country, that image of republican members screaming at the president during his speech may not provide mccarthy with the kind of backdrop he wants as he is trying to be taken seriously by the white house and the country as a responsible governing partner. >> that shot of marjorie taylor greene didn't exactly project middle class america, let's say, and respect for the office of the presidency. bring that still up again. garrett, the other really fascinating exchange was what you watched, you first broke that, which was romney -- senator romney...

>> boehner had a quote -- when your opponents are going to jump off of a bridge, whatever you do, don't push them. let them jump. >> -- think number one is to get out of the way and let them self destruct. but the second one is that kevin mccarthy is not someone they see as a governing partner. kevin mccarthy, for split-second, on january 6th, or after january six, was ready to hold donald trump accountable, until he realized it could cost him the speakership, where he did not have enough of his caucus with him, and so he step stepped back. and -- kevin mccarthy as speaker than jim jordan a sp...

Many mines. >> yeah. go ahead. >> for democrats, the calculation is obviously twofold. on the one hand, the golden rule in politics when the other side is messing up, just get out of the way. >> boehner quote. boehner used to have a quote when your opponents are going to jump off a bridge, whatever you do, don't push them. let them jump. >> for democrats, you know, instinct number one is just get out of the way and let themself destruct. but i think a second one, kevin mccarthy is not someone they see as a governing partner. kevin mccarthy for a split second on january 6th, or after january 6t...

And one of the problems is that, you know, berlusconi, who was in and out over the 2000s, and by the way, one of her partners in the governing coalition, a convicted criminal, and he was one of the first to detain migrants and demonize migrants in all of its government, so the other governing partner, he actually called for, quote, mass cleansing of immigrants. and so when you have -- so this is the problem, when you have such extremes and people actively promoting racist and violence against immigrants, and berlusconi loved to make deals with other despots and made a deal with gadhafi and sen...

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