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That you can't do that. and again, it's so important for people to have a high comfort level in the integrity of government and government function. this is a no-fly territory for any lawyer to a united states president. >> joyce, good guidance on that. still ahead, michael flynn, he was back before a judge today. does this mean he's giving robert mueller everything he needs? we're back. you're watching "deadline: white house." needles. essential for the cactus, but maybe not for people with rheumatoid arthritis. because there are options.

How much they can't stand exactly this kind of behavior. and yet here is scott pruitt doing everything that if you were writing a book to a cabinet secretary how to avoid controversy and problems and corruption, you would go counsel this list and be like don't do any of these things.counsel this list and be like don't do any of these things. >> don't do any of these things. >> exactly. including possible violations of the law when it comes to asking people in their government function to do nongovernment work, whether that is getting your wife a $200,000 a year job or working out some represen...

And paper the neighborhood, i am not impressed. >> i am also not impressed. when people don't walk the walk. but shifting the responsibility to the private sector for a government function like this is really not practical. >> laura: but if you want to send them into the country and separate them. they have to go somewhere. >> what is symptonatic of this issue is people are not living their idealogy. my see illegal immigrants every day. i am trying to be part of the solution. i don't agree with illegal immigration. but it's a fact. when i look at where people live and put their kids at school.

>> i am also not impressed. when people don't walk the walk. but shifting the responsibility to the private sector for a government function like this is really not practical. >> laura: but if you want to send them into the country and separate them. they have to go somewhere. >> what is symptonatic of this issue is people are not living their idealogy. my see illegal immigrants every day. i am trying to be part of the solution. i don't agree with illegal immigration. but it's a fact. when i look at where people live and put their kids at school. it's a reality that doesn't match the abstracti...

It's a reality that doesn't match the abstracti dealology. we create cynicism. that's what created donald trump. how this affected real people didn't affect them. they were able to navigate because of their power and influence. they were able to navigate around the ramifications of their own idealogy. we have a highlily cynical population. >> laura: michael? >> it's more of an intellectual pursuit. every school is doing what they feel their constituents would support. they can't act in a government function without creating more tax buderns on the community. i am a former mayor in new jersey. ...