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Something. people may say this is just verbiage because it puts the honous now on republicans and the white house to do something about daca. now the democrats -- >> that's true because it wasn't a back-door deal that was said in private. this is something he put out before the american people. >> i agree with ron. it's just the nature of our government. it's often a winner take all system. the republicans control both houses of congress and the white house. if they don't want to help daca recipients, it's not going to happen. they say they want no and that's why the democrats and flake and gr...

The president wants immigration reform and they are obviously far apart on this. but mitch mcconnell the senate majority leader called this a manufactured crisis. and he said this earlier. let's listen. >> who pays the price for that? healthcare for needy children. training and resources for our men and women in uniform. care for our veterans who came home and survivor benefits for families of heroes who did not. rick: the veterans the real 1 percenters. >> there is one thing about this government shutdown it's a partial shutdown. the main silver lining you can take away from this is agencies ...

Mentioned the daca demand and the president wants immigration reform. and they are obviously very far apart on this. but meanwhile, mcconnell, the senate majority leader has called this a manufactured crisis. he also said this earlier. let's listen. >> who pays the price for that? healthcare for needy children. training and resources for our men and women in uniform. care for our veterans who came home and survivor benefits for families of heroes who did not. rick: the veterans, the real 1 percenters still have to go to work and don't collect paychecks and their families have to deal with not ...

>> here we go again. we're back to s hole and this situation. i want to say one thing in defense of the president. this language of obstructionist loser will appeal to his base. this is not fwoing going to change the deeply po larized country. this will be the latest example -- >> it doesn't help with the democrats. establishing a deal. that's what i meant. >> it doesn't. it's a danger more for independents who thought he was going to change. >> he's in trouble with. >> he's in trouble with them. it will push him down. it sets a tone again for 2018. of a presidency that's maybe we will not say...

They may pass the house but i think you're right. the senate as a whole different ball of wax. they need democrats to support it but i think they've lost mitch mcconnell, mitch mcconnell has lost two corepublicans, maybe three. >> bret: lindsey graham, rand paul and maybe others. >> mccain and cochran aren't necessarily going to be there for the vote. you're starting with 49 which is a problem. >> bret: what does this mean about the ability of republicans to control the white house, the senate, and the house and the ability to have government function, period. >> i don't think it speaks very w...