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Change. how as a professional, how do you advise her? how does hillary clinton somehow become the candidate of the future with a 20-year past? >> i think it's also not a change. most candidates always run as the candidate of change, whether it be for governor or whether it be for president or other things. i think what you're starting to hear more and more in her speeches, i can make this work. similar to the themes in which her husband ran for, which is, i can bring people back together again. i can make it work. the one thing you did see tonight was that hard work was rewarded. you saw that ...

The country is now mad at. she somehow has to become the candidate of change. now, because i think whether it's chris christie or perry or kasick or walker or any one of a dozen other republicans, they're going to be the candidate of change. how as a professional, how do you advise her? how does hillary clinton somehow become the candidate of the future with a 20-year past? >> i think it's also not a change. most candidates always run as the candidate of change, whether it be for governor or whether it be for president or other things. i think what you're starting to hear more and more in her ...

Losing for decades. >> and joe, there's another issue that i know you think a lot about and thought a lot about that huntsman also talked about which is afghanistan and ending the war. that's another populist issue that i think republicans missed in 2012. the president was for winding down the war. you had others who didn't run that thought that that was an issue to tap into across the board populists including a lot of the groups you just talked about. that was an issue that would have surprised voters. that's one of the things that people criticized the republicans who ran for, no deviation ...

President and for democrats. it was a great election for him. i don't want to upset anybody, but jon meacham, the republicans regained the majority -- they regained the majority by running against the president, running against the bailout, running against obamacare, running against tax increases, running against all the things the president ran for. this should not engage anybody. this is divided government. >> yeah. >> this is the genius of james madison. this is the genius of our constitution. this is the genius of our founding fathers. it frustrates republicans when democrats do it. it fru...

Ron paul, texas congressman who ran for president in 2008 ended up winning the straw poll for the second straight year. donald trump remarked on thursday that it's unlikely that ron paul would ever be president, or even the gop nominee but it's clear that he does have an enthusiastic following. we the reporters in attendance saw that. the other republicans, one other name who did well, who didn't show up, was new jersey governor chris christie, who finished third in the cpac straw poll, though he didn't show up and told everyone he won't be running for president. >> what does this say, mark, b...