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Mission that is done in a grid pattern. they are still de-layering. they are still sifting through the rubble using heavy machinery to try to get to as much of this rubble as they can before we feel any signs of the weather. i know that yesterday the first bands of elsa were felt. we started getting some rain and also some winds, but these brave men and women never left that pile unless there were dangerous lightning strikes, jim. and so today, even though there is some wind, some wind gusts, these brave men and women continue to sift through the rubble looking for survivors. jim? >> goodness,...

Spread out. so it's really going to be hard to police the perimeter like you would even in a place like central park. bottom line, right now it's dark out here in california. you are going to have all kinds of assets. you will have personnel doing just walk as we heard in a grid pattern. maybe there is sod kind of evidence. but bottom line, even if there is not an active shooter, it's an active crime scene until such time that ther. ithe d that the -- that the perp is captured or neutralized. aishah: we are hearing from a councilmember there is one gunman in custody. there are lots of reports ...

Which is odd. talk to me about this crime scene. it's a huge crime scene. you have essentially the las vegas strip and very big concert venue. these are live pictures right now. >> you're going to have his house, his cars, and this park where it is going to be a huge undertaking. all the ballistics have to be recovered from. any other information they are going to have to find, they have to coordinate a crime scene search. they will have to create a grid pattern to they don't miss anything. they will have to flag all the pieces of evidence they do find. and evidence at the hospital where some ...

When they're dispersed, and you have these amorphous pockets of crowds going in different directions, it's very difficult to police. usually, you have it set up in a grid pattern and people are separated by whole streets. here, because the streets are small and because the protesters and counterprotesters were scattered, you had numerous potential flash points that could take place where there were vulnerabilities. one last thing. a lot of these folks look for raising a flag and planting a flag for turf, and if this was intentional, i'm with jim on this, i think it looks like it, that could be...

Neutralize the situation in terms of fires. there was a reported fire on the eighth floor of the hospital. smoke being seen from the 16th floor. darren, commissioner bratton was discussing something interesting and that is that the fire department in new york has been trained to be able to insert themselves into an active situation. to be able to do this. this is a video by the way from a few moments ago where you're seeing police heavily armed as darren porcher said. not just with guns but with extra armor. and long guns. now going over a barrier in t the -- on the grand concourse in the bron...