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Joy reid is managing editor of grios.com. msnbc analyst. ryan grim is the washington bureau chief for the "huffington post." he me start with you, joy. i've spent a lot of time trying to find out how they get the wizes past people. and they do it real quick. so they appeal to people's emotions about 9/11, fair enough. they even sing country western songs about it. all of a sudden you remember how you felt? all of a sudden we're fighting in iraq. that has nothing to do with it. you're legitimately angry, so let's bait and switch. take that anger and switch it to iraq. they did it to screw john ...

To put my boot through the television set. >> it may be necessary to have a special counsel. >> we have politics that's stuck. >> now you see what happens when i have brian's credit card in my bra. >> people think about the next election than the next generation. >> you get your credit card back. >> it's broken right now for a particular reason. >> the irs has been used by jfk, lbj, nixon, clinton, bush, obama as a political weapon. >> it's not permanently broken. >> there's only one way to fix this. >> it can be fixed. >> abolish the irs. let's get right to our panel now. joining us is joy ...

Admitting the white house mishandled it here. yesterday, things came full circle and lois lerner was placed on administrative leave. after refusing an order to sign. she's off the job for a while. robert gibbs is a former white house press secretary. he was part of the may 17th white house strategy session when the smart guys came in and smart women. joy reid, also smart. she's with grios.com. still an independent lady on the outside of this business. robert, you've been in there. i don't know how much you're privileged to say about that strategy session. it does seem to me based on news repor...

Monday white house press secretary jay carney comes clean with a more detailed timeline of what administration officials knew and when they knew it. wednesday carney strikes an apologetic tone with the press admitting the white house mishandled it here. yesterday, things came full circle and lois lerner was placed on administrative leave. she's off the job for a while. robert gibbs is a former white house press secretary. he was part of the may 17th white house strategy session when the smart guys came in and smart women. joy reid, also smart. she's with grios.com. still an independent lady on...

Our strategy evolves. let's get right to our panel now. here with me in new york, msnbc contributor joy reid who's managing editor of the grios.com. in washington, msnbc political analyst david corn of "mother jones" magazine. david, in your latest piece you refer to the president's speech, as, i'm quoting you, a new realism in dealing with terrorism. when the president said that our actions are effective and legal, but not always moral and wise, do you think he was critiquing his own policy on drone strikes up until now? >> i thought in his speech he was a very candid and straightforward sort...