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It would require strong evidence of criminal violations, more ground breaking reporting where mueller reports -- kind of like when we saw bill clinton and the perjury charge. that's why you're seeing the white house undermine mueller. even when there was evidence of perjury against clinton, the number two democrat in the house, he took to the house floor and said how dare the american people and this congress try to deny us a president that was dually -- duly elected. >> you know, charlie, the difference is that bill clinton was accused 0 lying about was a sexual affair with someone while youn...

From the congressman that if trump were to find a way to fire bob mueller that there would a backlash, republicans would break from him? >> no. it would require strong evidence of criminal violations, more ground breaking reporting where mueller reports -- kind of like when we saw bill clinton and the perjury charge. that's why you're seeing the white house undermine mueller. even when there was evidence of perjury against clinton, the number two democrat in the house, he took to the house floor and said how dare the american people and this congress try to deny us a president that was dually ...

Remain in it. it sends a signal for what the united states policy will be in the future with regards to climate change and it's a huge break from the g7. we saw how much donald trump unsettled angela merkel and some oval t of the other european leaders last week. >> i want to ask you about something -- the "the new york times" and the washington post have been doing some ground breaking reporting, a lot of it based on information coming out of the white house. the issue of leaks, particularly classified information taking center stage. we saw it play out this week with the manchester concert i...

For all the loose talk on the air waves, some journalists have been doing ground breaking reporting on the missing malaysian plane. joining us now is michael schmidt who has been covering the story for the "new york times." how difficult is it to uncover reliable information about what happened? >> i think the biggest problem is there is not a lot of information to come out. and on top of that, the u.s. is only getting so much of it. we don't have a lot of sources in malaysia that can help us, so we've been forced to rely on folks here in washington. >> on that point, you said one of the stori...