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What is your view on that? >> the sources are critical. having on the ground intelligence is always critical. that's why i think what we're doing in syria and continuing to have a footprint there will be very, very important. not just syria but other places around the world. there is no substitute for on the ground intelligence from the indigenous population. >> bill: room by room. you can't get more specific than that. what do we think of the delta force, the men and women who stay so quiet and do the job as well as they do? >> work with delta force before, absolutely amazing individuals, sol...

Correspondent, andrea mitchell, and lahnee chen. this is quite the morning, i have to say. we have this panel planned before all this, and it's perfect. andrea, the president, it's a big deal. the president wants to make it the biggest deal of all time, obviously, as well. but put this in perspective for us. >> it's a very big deal to get baghdadi. it's arguably how operational he was. he was on the run, moving around. it's a tribute to u.s. intelligence and the special forces. i think he could have praised them more vigorously before he thanked russia and vladimir putin for, you know, clearin...

The world, families of those held, freed americans and for them as well. with that said, incredible human intelligence assets for the united states as the white house prepares for the summit with kim jong un. we don't have the quality and quantity of on the ground intelligence in north korea that we have in other nations due to the fact a deeply isolated country over many decades. there is a lot we don't know. what these former hostages can tell us is their impression of the state of the political culture in north korea, what north koreans are saying, what they think about their government, ho...

The big rally in indiana, how great is that going to be? running on adrenaline, thank you. rob: this is a historic moment for americans but also the result of high-caliber work performed by america's into agencies. jillian: the trump administration will learn a lot about the hermit kingdom from freed hostages being debriefed as we speak. >> incredible human intelligence assets for the united states. we don't have the quantity and quality of on the ground intelligence in north korea that we have due to the fact that north korea over many decades.

Couple of months ago where he said his aspiration was not to be a former director of the central intelligence agency. there he was. he didn't last 90 days. as opposed -- to tell you the truth, she does have a troubling career which has some components which were involved in the water boarding torture debate. those will have to come out in her confirmation hearing. i don't think she's as culpable as many people think. we need a career professional at the cia who will deal in ground intelligence, ground fact. >> we will get more of your wisdom in our next hour because malcolm will be back. we ne...