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End of the recording. so it really is a very chilling read of these final moments of that germanwings flight that went down in the alps dana. >> absolutely terrifying. fredrik, thank you for that report. appreciate it. here with us now, charlie pereira, former ntsb investigator who co-wrote the first chapter of the 9/11 commission report. thank you for joining me. first your reaction to what we know detail by detail of the last final minutes? >> well for the families it's another horrible piece of data that indicates what their families went through. that's the worst part of all of this. >> ...

Perishable evidence on plane like that? >> it could be ground scars, marks on the trees, fuel any type of liquid that could come out of airplane, stuff like that. >> how does it change the investigation having someone who survived? >> having someone that is a witness always helps us in the investigation. it gives us kind of a story line and it's helpful in any situation. >> what time did the plane take off from tallahassee and started key west? >> i don't have the exact time. when we look at the air traffic control data we'll have that. any other? >> part of the wing on fire is that correct? >...