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The reason the league settled is they did not want nfl owners' depositions to be entered into evidence. they didn't want discovery. they didn't want anything on the record anybody could access or leak because then that would expose what some owners think. if jon gruden is this comfortable saying what he said about the executive director of the nfl players' association, d. smith, and about women, and gay people, what do you think the owners were saying about colin kaepernick and black players that protested during the national anthem? what did that look like? >> come on, you know. >> you alread...

Evidence. they didn't want discovery. they didn't want anything on the record anybody could access or leak because then that would expose what some owners think. if jon gruden is this comfortable saying what he said about the executive director of the nfl players ' association d smit and women and gay people, what do you think the owners were saying about colin kaepernick and black players that protested during the national anthem. >> come on, you know. >> you already know. the nfl -- >> as we say, you already know. >> we already know. right? so -- >> yeah. >> yeah, and that's part of it. jon ...