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>> grow everything, but perhaps by a lesser magnitude. say, maybe a dollar for defense, one dollar increase to defense. 30 cent increase equivalent for nondefense programs. elizabeth: if you're a member of the military. how do you react to this? if you're not sure what the funding is going to look like? how do you react for that? >> it's a huge problem for the pentagon. it's the largest agency. half trillion annually they do long-term, five to 30 year planning. it's disruptive to a department that buys good and services and can't move forward with all of their plans. elizabeth: i think that the president is in a little bit of a conundrum here because this is what he ran on. i mean, this is why he is put into office, i mean, he's here for a reason. so, i'm-- i guess i'm perplexed as to why folks are so surprised that the news that he's making these cuts and putting the money elsewhere because this is why he was elected. >> that's right. fair enough.