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Tone that he was adopting to be reflected in some of the comments from the white house. but look, there's always a tension between responsibilities of a party leader in the senate or the house leadership and the relationship they have with the president. and i think paul, given a difficult situation, handled it well. paul: there's a lot of commentary particularly from the left that paul ryan, the paul ryan party, political party, republican party is now dead with his departure. it's now donald trump's party. so the growth wing, the jack kemp wing, the reagan wing of the party, the inclusive wi...

Another republican when he retires in january. we're back with dan henninger, bill mcgurn and kate odell. so, kate, you've been following the republican conference, what do you think ryan's retirement means for their ability to govern? >> i'm not sure it's a positive sign. if you remember how we got into the ryan speakership in the first place, it was because kevin mccarthy -- who would now like to be speaker -- dropped out because he was not able to command a majority. and the reason for that was because the house freedom caucus was peeling off 30 or 40 votes. we wrote in a time in an editori...

Another republican when he retires in january. we're back with dan henninger, bill mcgurn and kate odell. so, kate, you've been following the republican conference, what do you think ryan's retirement means for their ability to govern? >> i'm not sure it's a positive sign. if you remember how we got into the ryan speakership in the first place, it was because kevin mccarthy -- who would now like to be speaker -- dropped out because he was not able to command a majority. and the reason for that was because the house freedom caucus was peeling off 30 or 40 votes. we wrote in a time in an editori...

Tone that he was adopting to be reflected in some of the comments from the white house. but look, there's always a tension between responsibilities of a party leader in the senate or the house leadership and the relationship they have with the president. and i think paul, given a difficult situation, handled it well. paul: there's a lot of commentary particularly from the left that paul ryan, the paul ryan party, political party, republican party is now dead with his departure. it's now donald trump's party. so the growth wing, the jack kemp wing, the reagan wing of the party, the inclusive wi...

I was very encouraged to read mr. trump will be meeting with larry can you do low and steven moore and steve forbes and others in the growth wing of the party to talk about a growth oriented ojob pack an. trump has his own thoughts about tax reform that would be more favorable to entrepreneurs and to growth and to business. so i consider that a very good sign. but, frankly, it's something i have been arguing for for some time. perhaps i played some small role going rocky and saying if nodes to be done. >> if he does not win the nomination, sit your gut that he will run as around independent? >...