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Multiple different states and no one is stopping you. so until you fix that, why would you pass a massive bill to fix everything else if you're going to deal with the same problem another five years. remember, ronald reagan did a form of amnesty and we didn't fix the border then when he was president and you now we're dealing with the same issue, what, 25 years later? >> the same nonstarter. you don't want to fix trade policy, piece families back together, sensible guest worker programs and strengthen the economy here, you'll never get reform. they start with this idea of putting an electric f...

And a president whose political capital is unaring out, it's a dicey mix. >> is immigration reform dead? if it is, who killed it and who gets blamed for its death? >> it's dead on arrival in a comprehensive way. we see executive action take a step forward in terms of guest worker programs and other things that he can do by executive order, maybe. but will we see a comprehensive bill come out of this congress that looks at stemming the tide of immigrants coming across the border illegally, giving a pathway for citizenship for those here already, i don't think we're going to see that kind of leg...

Now is the moment. >> you go and talk to republicans about this, and i imagine you have, because you -- i know you've worked with eric cantor on a previous piece of legislation, the jobs act 37 when you talk to them, what do they say to you. is this message persuasive? it doesn't seem like it's reaching the house republican caucus. >> it is. i'm not talking about a specific conversation with specific people, in general, there is a lot of republican support for doing whatever they can to focus on the economy, focus on innovations, that is why the legislation that eric cantor championed with the...

Republicans about this, and i imagine you have, because you -- i know you've worked with eric cantor on a previous piece of legislation, the jobs act 37 when you talk to them, what do they say to you. is this message persuasive? it doesn't seem like it's reaching the house republican caucus. >> it is. i'm not talking about a specific conversation with specific people, in general, there is a lot of republican support for doing whatever they can to focus on the economy, focus on innovations, that is why the legislation that eric cantor championed with the support of president obama passed a year...

Immigration is a key part. some in washington view immigration a problem we need to solve, i view it as an opportunity we need to seize and now is the moment. >> you go and talk to republicans about this, and i imagine you have, because you -- i know you've worked with eric cantor on a previous piece of legislation, the jobs act 37 when you talk to them, what do they say to you. is this message persuasive? it doesn't seem like it's reaching the house republican caucus. >> it is. i'm not talking about a specific conversation with specific people, in general, there is a lot of republican support...